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I'm very much interested in Jungian Depth Psychology (it is a soulful/spiritual/intellectual pursuit for me).
Thomas Moore's work has really helped open me up and see things with a lens that penetrates deeper than my own short-sightedness.
I also pay close attention to James Hollis as he elucidates a clear and fair phenomenological/existentialist depth perspective and David Whyte articulates excellent poetic/metaphor relative to my corporate environment where I work.

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Hi Beth, sorry to flit by like this...but I've glanced at your post and it brought to mind my recent concern about returning to undergraduate school (a necessary evil). I fret over entering into a soulless, sterile, for-profit academic enterprise ...
November 5
I'm interested in looking at the phenomenology of shadow manifestations found in our Pollyanna-like optimism which one can see in those ever-so popular feel-good psychologies & spiritually abundant religions where they are given to judge negativel...
October 19
enantiodromia
October 19
A blog post by Waking was featured
"Every human life is a profound mystery. Deep and invisible currents make us who we are, and the world around us is full of secret intentions and laws. One response to all this mystery is to treat it as a problem to be solved and to do everything ...
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All one can really say is Bon Voyage. Now we know how it must be for Barque. :-)
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Fantastic!
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I've always wondered why mysteries need protection. Surely mysteries such as the teachings of Jesus will always exceed even such perceptive analyses as Tom's insight into the neurosis of virtuousness. We do always run the risk of damaging our rela...
March 22
Well, Julianne, there are two issues here. I was talking about the sense of virtue. Call it the archetype of virtue. Like every complex, it must have its opposite, which I suppose is transgression (sin). Many people pursue the sense of being virtu...
March 22
Tom, are you saying that making mistakes of character can help us to learn something, lead us to something new? Is it something like the Shakespeare quote, 'The web of our life is of a mingled yarn, good and ill together'? When I've made big mista...
March 22
I've been waiting to post until I thought I could sound as insightful as everyone else on this blog. Clearly profundity is not going to happen and I'm laughing at myself...the tipping point was checking my Facebook account and noticing that someho...
March 21
Lately I've been thinking about the feeling of virtuousness, not virtue itself, as an obstacle to the spiritual life. The most effective blocks are those that look so good we don't recognize them for what they are. It's as though being good is a t...
March 20
Thanks so much for sharing these quotes. They help me right now, in this moment, to feel more expanded and peaceful. The first quote you gave, If the fool would persist in his folly he would become wise. — Ralph Waldo Emerson made me think of so...
March 20
I haven't been to the site in a while. As I'm currently living in Europe with most of my books in storage in the U.S., I don't have access to Moore's books here. I actually ordered one from Amazon months ago but it never arrived. If you post some ...
March 5
I've been inspired to launch the James Hollis site based on the wonderful example of this Barque: Thomas Moore site! Please come by and visit...


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Further reflections from The Soul of Religion

If the fool would persist in his folly he would become wise. — William Blake, Proverbs of Hell

"This ironic foolishness is not literal stupidity. It is something infinitely subtle […] As such it is compatible with clear thought and good judgment […] Those who have written in praise of the fool, such as Plato, Erasmus, Jung, Yeats, Blake, Dickenson, and Lao-tzu, were all brilliant minds but they were aware of an entirely different kind of intelligence." [p.xix]

Moore invites me to… Continue

Posted on March 11, 2009 at 5:00pm — 11 Comments

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My Reflections on Tom's Writing

"Every human life is a profound mystery. Deep and invisible currents make us who we are, and the world around us is full of secret intentions and laws. One response to all this mystery is to treat it as a problem to be solved and to do everything possible to be informed and in control. But another way is to bow down in ignorance and confess our limitations. " [p.xv]

These opening passages to The Soul’s Religion are touchstones along the road I trudge. I take them as imperat… Continue

Posted on March 5, 2009 at 4:30pm — 3 Comments

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What to do?

Lately I’ve been transcribing audio snippets I capture with the digital recording feature on my Smartphone while listening to recordings of James Hollis and Thomas Moore on my long commute. I’ve also recently typed up certain themes I found personally resonant in Moore’s “The Soul’s Religion”. It’s kind of tedious and more often than not I find myself inspired but less than committed to actually following through with my intentions along these lines.

Incidentally, I’m also very keen of listenin… Continue

Posted on February 26, 2009 at 1:30pm — 4 Comments

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Holyday fathering, financial worries, dharma and friendship sangha

I've been off work for the last week and a half for holiday vacation and have had my little one during the days and most of the evenings keeping him out of daycare so we can spend some quality time together... truth be told I've become a bit weary...but he's more than worth it!
Actually, I'm more stressed over the worry of the overwhelming financial burden my (soon to be ex) wife will pursue to force on me through our next mediation divorce meeting Friday...

Anyhow, I got a short respite today… Continue

Posted on January 4, 2009 at 11:00pm —

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Moar Poetree

A Coat

I MADE my song a coat
Covered with embroideries
Out of old mythologies
From heel to throat;
But the fools caught it,
Wore it in the world’s eyes
As though they’d wrought it.
Song, let them take it
For there’s more enterprise
In walking naked.

W.B. Yeats (1865–1939). Responsibilities and Other Poems. 1916.

Posted on January 4, 2009 at 9:06pm —

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At 9:45am on January 7, 2009, David Elliott said…
About the forum. Sounds great. Could you get it started and then I will copy/add posts to the discussion? I worked in Hong Kong and the East for many years. Spirituality has a broader and deeper meaning than in the West. The Dalai Lama is a respected leader of that tradition. They are amused by the theological battles we engage in. Thomas Moore would find a receptive audience there.
At 1:37pm on January 6, 2009, David Elliott said…
Thanks Andy for commenting.
I was wondering what sort of a community Barque would be. My interest in Soul and Spirit goes back many years when I wrote a thesis on St. Francis and began developing a sense of soul in the medieval age and the distinction to spirit in the modern (post-enlightenment) age. Spirit became more identified with the modern concept of self. Imagine my wonder when Thomas Moore wrote his first book, Care of the Soul! His depth understanding from the 15th century articulated what I was trying to understand. Still I wonder after more than a decade why Moore's understanding are not more generally used in churches? Do people offer seminars on his books? I did a seminar on his very approachable book "Original Self" that a small group of church people very much appreciated. What is the future of Thomas Moore's thought in the public sphere? I guess Oprah is out of the question.
At 8:24pm on November 24, 2008, Bill Johnson said…
hi Andy, glad you're enjoying my blog...was wondering if anyone out there was reading it until someone picked it up and quoted me on this site because I happened to mention Moore. That's how I first linked to this site. Sure beats Facebook! Keep the poetry coming, I enjoy the selections.
At 10:38am on April 17, 2008, Barque said…
Hi Andy,
Many thanks for taking the time to write about Thomas Moore's talk at the FMS conference earlier this month. It's posted at Barque: Thomas Moore as Catalyst. Great job!
At 9:10pm on April 8, 2008, Brandon WilliamsCraig said…
I was indeed at the FMS conference. You saw me running around setting the sound and recording everything, but I may not have seen you. Like what do you look?
At 5:10pm on April 3, 2008, Waking said…
“There is no light without shadow and no psychic wholeness without imperfection.” (CW 12, 208)

"One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but by making darkness conscious. The latter procedure, however, is disagreeable and therefore not popular." (C. G. Jung, Collected Works 13, para. 335).
At 4:22pm on March 27, 2008, Hamida said…
Well, after I said I didn't know how, I spent some more time at it and figured it out. This is one of those small lessons I still haven't learned. Don't cry wolf until you really need to.
At 3:06pm on March 27, 2008, Hamida said…
Hey Waking, What do I have to do to accept you as a friend? This whole thing is new to me. I am currently in Puerto Vallarta staying with a friend on his boat and was off line for several days. Back on now.
At 12:10pm on March 20, 2008, Waking said…
Well Julianne,
I don't know if there's anything to it...just noticed the feature lets you invite/add friends and any friend of Moore is a friend of mine :)
Nice to meet you too! I just looked at your website and thought, that's a nice place to explore!
I started another site and our host here (Barque) and a few more folks joined, so I'll put an invite here in case you're interested. Come on by and take a peek if ya want.

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Best regards,
Andy
Andy
At 7:34am on March 20, 2008, Julianne said…
I don't understand. What does it mean to be a friend? I'm already in the Forum. Anyway, nice to meet you.

Julianne
 
 

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